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Galatians 5:1-2 NIV
It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. [2] Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.

This is good.

Romans 8:23 NIV
Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.

Fallen?

Fallen

What does it mean to fall from grace?

It means you are “walking”/living according to the “flesh”.

You are no longer free from the desires of the flesh.

You have not learned to follow the truth which sets you free.

Revelation 2:4-5 NIV
Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. [5] Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

Galatians 5:4 NIV
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

Galatians 5:1, 5-6 NIV
It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. [5] For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. [6] For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

Galatians 5:16-17 NIV
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. [17] For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.

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Jesus & New

Speaker
Dan B

Date
2013-01-10

Jesus & New
This is an unusual thing for those around Jesus to hear. Here Jesus is foretelling of the New Covenant.

John 4:7-14 (NKJV)
7 A woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.” 8 For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.
9 Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.
10 Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
11 The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? 12 Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”
13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

Jesus & Old
When you read the New Testament, always look for the New Covenant.

Luke 6:7-9 (NIV)
7 The Pharisees and the teachers of the law were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal on the Sabbath. 8 But Jesus knew what they were thinking and said to the man with the shriveled hand, “Get up and stand in front of everyone.” So he got up and stood there.

9 Then Jesus said to them, “I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?”

Conclusion
20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Do you believe?

Do you believe? You have Life!
Do you believe? You have Life!
Do you believe? You have Life!
Do you believe? You have Life!

This is the New Covenant. If you believe Christ is who He claimed to be, you have a new spiritual life. Rom 1:16

The New Covenant should always be defined by “life” rather than forgiveness. Christ’s death on the cross was certainly the sacrifice needed to satisfy the penalty of sin, but it did not give us the “new” life and new way of relating to God. Rom 5:10,8

Romans 7:6
Hebrews 10:20

This life is not so much defined as power to overcome sin in our life or empower us to service as it is the power to receive truth from God.
This is indeed a new way of relating to God.
People are innately selfish and generally misanthropic without some influence from outside of themselves.
Experiencing Truth, over time, renews our natural tendencies and changes us to love others. Change is the fruit of Truth which we learn by studying the Word and praying.

This is the New Covenant way. Trusting is based on what we experience over time.

This is promise or foretelling of the…

This is promise or foretelling of the New Covenant.

Jeremiah 31:31-33 NASB
“Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, [32] not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. [33] “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ezekiel 36:27 NASB
“I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.

 

Jeremiah 31:31-33 NASB

Jeremiah 31:31-33 NASB
“Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, [32] not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. [33] “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ezekiel 36:27 NASB
“I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.

Many Christians are taught and

Many Christians are taught and motivated to have a personal relationship with their local church rather than with Jesus. People who are usually very trusting, or immature in their faith, can be easily taught to fulfill their Christian “duty” by service (works) in their local church. In Revelation, Jesus had that against the church at Ephesus and then He said this; Revelation 2:4-5 KJV Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. [5] Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Every person’s ministry will be different, based on the development of their faith and their perceived spiritual gifts, but, every Christian’s “works” should be based on the same thing; the attitude of their heart and a God given desire for the work. It is important to learn how God works in your life in a New Covenant way, in order to learn how faith works by love. Galatians 5:6 KJV For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. This is the new way of relating to God based on the Life promised in the New Covenant. [Www.gflstudy.org](http://www.gflstudy.org)

“Born Of Woman” vs. “Born Of God”

“Born Of Woman” vs. “Born Of God”

This leads us to the third of our opening bible passages – Matthew 11:11-13. John the Baptist who was the greatest of those “born of women” and the last of the prophets. Yet Jesus said that “the least in the Kingdom of God is greater than he.” At first sight the proposition that some of the more annoying Christians we have met could be greater than John the Baptist is, to say the least, astonishing (your editor has a cynical streak).

But consider… those “born of women” can have the Spirit upon them, worship God and be prophets but they are not “new creations”.There is a huge qualitative difference between a “born again believer” and John the Baptist. The born again believer is “born of God” (not merely “born of women”) and has a God-conceived nature that is eternal. They are not necessarily “better than” John the Baptist as viewed from outside. But when viewed from inside or from above they are “greater” inasmuch as the nature conceived within the Christian is far greater and can be said to dwell in the heavenly realms (Ephesians 2:6.7). This nature is Christ in us…

(Colossians 1:26-29 NKJV) The mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. {27} To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. {28} Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. {29} To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily.
http://aibi.ph/articles/innermn2.htm

Lord – Scofield from Bible Discovery

Gen 2:4

Lord
Lord God
Lord
LORD (Heb. Jehovah)
(1) The primary meaning of the name LORD (Jehovah) is the “self-existent One.” Literally (as in Exodus 3:14), “He that is who He is, therefore the eternal I AM:”
But Havah, from which Jehovah, or Yahwe, is formed, signifies also “to become,” that is, to become known, thus pointing to a continuous and increasing self-revelation. Combining these meanings of Havah, we arrive at the meaning of the name Jehovah. He is “the self- existent One who reveals Himself.” The name is, in itself, an advance upon the name “God” (El, Elah, Elohim), which suggests certain attributes of Deity, as strength, etc., rather than His essential being.
(2) It is significant that the first appearance of the name Jehovah in Scripture follows the creation of man. It was God (Elohim) who said, “Let us make man in our image” (Genesis 1:26); but when man, as in the second chapter of Genesis, is to fill the scene and become dominant over creation, it is the Lord God (Jehovah Elohim) who acts. This clearly indicates a special relation of Deity, in His Jehovah character, to man, and all Scripture emphasizes this.
(3) Jehovah is distinctly the redemption name of Deity. When sin entered and redemption became necessary, it was Jehovah Elohim who sought the sinning ones Genesis 3:9-13 and clothed them with “coats of skins” Genesis 3:21 a beautiful type of righteousness provided by the Lord God through sacrifice Romans 3:21,22. The first distinct revelation of Himself by His name Jehovah was in connection with the redemption of the covenant people out of Egypt Exodus 3:13-17. As Redeemer, emphasis is laid upon those attributes of Jehovah which the sin and salvation of man bring into exercise. These are:
(a) His holiness Leviticus 11:44,45; 19:1,220:26; Habakkuk 1:12,13 (b) His hatred and judgment of sin ; Deuteronomy 32:35-42; Genesis 6:5-7; Psalms 11:4-6; 66:18; Exodus 34:6,7 (c) His love for and redemption of sinners, but always righteously ; Genesis 3:21; 8:20,21; Exodus 12:12,13; Leviticus 16:2,3; Isaiah 53:5,6,10 Salvation by Jehovah apart from sacrifice is unknown to Scripture.

(4) In his redemptive relation to man, Jehovah has seven compound names which reveal Him as meeting every need of man from his lost state to the end. These compound names are:
(a) Jehovah-jireh, “the Lord will provide” Genesis 22:13,14 i.e., will provide a sacrifice; (b) Jehovah-rapha, “the Lord that healeth” Exodus 15:26. That this refers to physical healing the context shows, but the deeper healing of soul malady is implied. (c) Jehovah-nissi, “the Lord our banner” Exodus 17:8-15. The name is interpreted by the context. The enemy was Amalek, a type of the flesh, and the conflict that day stands for the conflict of Galatians 5:17 the war of the Spirit against the flesh. Victory was wholly due to divine help. (d) Jehovah-Shalom, “the Lord our peace,” or “the Lord send peace” Judges 6:24. Almost the whole ministry of Jehovah finds expression and illustration in that chapter. Jehovah hates and judges sin Genesis 2:1-5. Jehovah loves and saves sinners Genesis 2:7-18 but only through sacrifice Genesis 2:19-21 see also ; Romans 5:1; Ephesians 2:14; Colossians 1:20. (e) Jehovah-ra-ah, “the Lord my shepherd” (Psa 23.). In Ps. 22 Jehovah makes peace by the blood of the cross; in Ps 23. Jehovah is shepherding His own who are in the world. (See Scofield “John 10:7”) (f) Jehovah-tsidkenu, “the Lord our righteousness” Jeremiah 23:6. This name of Jehovah occurs in a prophecy concerning the future restoration and conversion of Israel. Then Israel will hail him as Jehovah-tsidkenu–“the Lord our righteousness.” (g) Jehovah-shammah, “the Lord is present” Ezekiel 48:35. This name signifies Jehovah’s abiding presence with His people ; Exodus 33:14,15; 1 Chronicles 16:27,33; Psalms 16:11; 97:5; Matthew 28:20; Hebrews 13:5
(5) Lord (Jehovah) is also the distinctive name of Deity as in covenant with Israel Exodus 19:3; 20:1,2; Jeremiah 31:31-34.
(6) Lord God (Heb. Jehovah Elohim) is the first of the compound names of Deity. Lord God is used distinctly:
(1) of the relation of Deity to man (a) as Creator Genesis 2:7-15 (b) as morally in authority over man Genesis 2:16,17 (c) as creating and governing the earthly relationships of man ; Genesis 2:18-24; 3:16-19,22-24 and (d) as redeeming man Genesis 3:8-15,21
(2) of the relation of Deity to Israel Genesis 24:7; 28:13; Exodus 3:15,18; 4:5; 5:1; 7:6; Deuteronomy 1:11,21; 4:1; 6:3; 12:1; Joshua 7:13,19,20; 10:40,42; Judges 2:12; 1 Samuel 2:30; 1 Kings 1:48; 2 Kings 9:6; 2 Kings 10:31; 1 Chronicles 22:19; 2 Chronicles 1:9; Ezra 1:3; Isaiah 21:17 See other names of Deity,
(See Scofield “Genesis 1:1”) See Scofield “Genesis 14:18” See Scofield “Genesis 15:2” See Scofield “Genesis 17:1” See Scofield “Genesis 21:33” See Scofield “1 Samuel 1:3”

Lord God Deity (names of God) (See Scofield “Malachi 3:18”)

(Scofield)

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31. The Conversion of Paul. Εὐδόκησεν ὁ θεος … ἀποκαλύψαι τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ ἐν ἐμοὶ, ἱνα εὐαγγελίζωμαι αὐτὸν ἐν τοῖς ἔθνεσινGal. 1:15, 16. The conversion of Paul marks not only a turning-point in his personal history, but also an important epoch in the history of the apostolic church, and consequently in the history of mankind. It was the most fruitful event since the miracle of Pentecost, and secured the universal victory of Christianity. The transformation of the most dangerous persecutor into the most successful promoter of Christianity is nothing less than a miracle of divine grace. It rests on the greater miracle of the resurrection of Christ. Both are inseparably connected; without the resurrection the conversion would have been impossible, and on the other hand the conversion of such a man and with such results is one of the strongest proofs of the resurrection. The bold attack of Stephen—the forerunner of Paul—upon the hard, stiff-necked Judaism which had crucified the Messiah, provoked a determined and systematic attempt on the part of the Sanhedrin to crucify Jesus again by destroying his church. In this struggle for life and death Saul the Pharisee, the bravest and strongest of the rising rabbis, was the willing and accepted leader. After the martyrdom of Stephen and the dispersion of the congregation of Jerusalem, he proceeded to Damascus in suit of the fugitive disciples of Jesus, as a commissioner of the Sanhedrin, a sort of inquisitor-general, with full authority and determination to stamp out the Christian rebellion, and to bring all the apostates he could find, whether they were men or women, in chains to the holy city to be condemned by the chief priests. Damascus is one of the oldest cities in the world, known in the days of Abraham, and bursts upon the traveller like a vision of paradise amidst a burning and barren wilderness of sand; it is watered by the never-failing rivers Abana and Pharpar (which Naaman of old preferred to all the waters of Israel), and embosomed in luxuriant gardens of flowers and groves of tropical fruit trees; hence glorified by Eastern poets as “the Eye of the Desert.” But a far higher vision than this earthly paradise was in store for Saul as he approached the city. A supernatural light from heaven, brighter than the Syrian sun, suddenly flashed around him at midday, and Jesus of Nazareth, whom he persecuted in his humble disciples, appeared to him in his glory as the exalted Messiah, asking him in the Hebrew tongue: “Shaûl, Shaûl, why persecutest thou Me?364It was a question both of rebuke and of love, and it melted his heart. He fell prostrate to the ground. He saw and heard, he trembled and obeyed, he believed and rejoiced. As he rose from the earth he saw no man. Like a helpless child, blinded by the dazzling light, he was led to Damascus, and after three days of blindness and fasting he was cured and baptized—not by Peter or James or John, but—by 364 Acts 9:4, the Hebrew form Σαούλ, Σαούλ, is used instead of the usual GreekΣαῦλος, 9:8, 11, 22, 24, etc

Dispensation – Scofield from Bible Discovery by copy

Gen 1:28

DISPENSATION
A dispensation is a period of time during which man is tested in respect of obedience to some specific revelation of the will of God. Seven such dispensations are distinguished in Scripture. (See Scofield “Genesis 1:28”) , note 5.

And God blessed them
The First Dispensation: Innocency. Man was created in innocency, placed in a perfect environment, subjected to an absolutely simple test, and warned of the consequence of disobedience. The woman fell through pride; the man deliberately. 1 Timothy 2:14 God restored His sinning creatures, but the dispensation of innocency ended in the judgment of the Expulsion Genesis 3:24 See, for the other dispensations;
Conscience (See Scofield “Genesis 3:23”)
Human Government (See Scofield “Genesis 8:21”)
Promise (See Scofield “Genesis 12:1”)
Law (See Scofield “Exodus 19:8”)
Grace (See Scofield “John 1:17”)
Kingdom (See Scofield “Ephesians 1:10”)
Be fruitful
The Edenic Covenant, the first of the eight great covenants of Scripture which condition life and salvation, and about which all Scripture crystallizes, has seven elements. The man and woman in Eden were responsible:
(1) To replenish the earth with a new order–man;
(2) to subdue the earth to human uses;
(3) to have dominion over the animal creation;
(4) to eat herbs and fruits;
(5) to till and keep the garden;
(6) to abstain from eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil;
(7) the penalty–death. See, for the other seven covenants:
ADAMIC (See Scofield “Genesis 3:14”)
NOAHIC (See Scofield “Genesis 9:1”)
ABRAHAMIC (See Scofield “Genesis 15:18”)
MOSAIC (See Scofield “Exodus 19:25”)
PALESTINIAN (See Scofield “Deuteronomy 30:3”)
DAVIDIC (See Scofield “2 Samuel 7:16”)
NEW (See Scofield “Hebrews 8:8”)

(Scofield)

My Note from Bible Gateway

This is how it all started.

From Olive Tree Commentary

Joh 1:14.
grace for grace– that is, grace upon grace (so all the best interpreters), in successive communications and larger measures, as each was able to take it in. Observe, the word “truth” is here dropped. “Grace” being the chosen New Testament word for the whole fulness of the new covenant, all that dwells in Christ for men. (JFB)

Many Christians are taught and motivated to have a personal relationship with their local church rather than with Jesus.

Many Christians are taught and motivated to have a personal relationship with their local church rather than with Jesus.

People who are usually very trusting, or immature in their faith, can be easily taught to fulfill their Christian “duty” by service (works) in their local church.

In Revelation, Jesus had that against the church at Ephesus and then He said this;

Revelation 2:4-5 KJV
Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. [5] Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Every person’s ministry will be different, based on the development of their faith and their perceived spiritual gifts, but, every Christian’s “works” should be based on the same thing; the attitude of their heart and a God given desire for the work.

It is important to learn how God works in your life in a New Covenant way, in order to learn how faith works by love.

Galatians 5:6 KJV
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

This is the new way of relating to God based on the Life promised in the New Covenant.

Keil & Delitzsch Commentary

Gen 1:1
​”In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” – Heaven and earth have not existed from all eternity, but had a beginning; nor did they arise by emanation from an absolute substance, but were created by God. This sentence, which stands at the head of the records of revelation, is not a mere heading, nor a summary of the history of the creation, but a declaration of the primeval act of God, by which the universe was called into being. That this verse is not a heading merely, is evident from the fact that the following account of the course of the creation commences with w (and), which connects the different acts of creation with the fact expressed in Gen 1:1, as the primary foundation upon which they rest. בּרשׁיח (in the beginning) is used absolutely, like ἐν ἀρχῇ in Joh 1:1, and מראשׁיח in Isa 46:10. The following clause cannot be treated as subordinate, either by rendering it, “in the beginning when God created…, the earth was,” etc., or “in the beginning when God created…(but the earth was then a chaos, etc.), God said, Let there be light” (Ewald and Bunsen). The first is opposed to the grammar of the language, which would require Gen 1:2 to commence with הארץ ותּהי; the second to the simplicity of style which pervades the whole chapter, and to which so involved a sentence would be intolerable, apart altogether from the fact that this construction is invented for the simple purpose of getting rid of the doctrine of a creatio ex nihilo, which is so repulsive to modern Pantheism. ראשׁיח in itself is a relative notion, indicating the commencement of a series of things or events; but here the context gives it the meaning of the very first beginning, the commencement of the world, when time itself began. The statement, that in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth, not only precludes the idea of the eternity of the world a parte ante, but shows that the creation of the heaven and the earth was the actual beginning of all things. The verb בּרא, indeed, to judge from its use in Jos 17:15, Jos 17:18, where it occurs in the Piel (to hew out), means literally “to cut, or new,” but in Kal it always means to create, and is only applied to a divine creation, the production of that which had no existence before. It is never joined with an accusative of the material, although it does not exclude a pre-existent material unconditionally, but is used for the creation of man (Gen 1:27; Gen 5:1-2), and of everything new that God creates, whether in the kingdom of nature (Num 16:30) or of that of grace (Exo 34:10; Psa 51:10, etc.). In this verse, however, the existence of any primeval material is precluded by the object created: “the heaven and the earth.” This expression is frequently employed to denote the world, or universe, for which there was no single word in the Hebrew language; the universe consisting of a twofold whole, and the distinction between heaven and earth being essentially connected with the notion of the world, the fundamental condition of its historical development (vid., Gen 14:19, Gen 14:22; Exo 31:17). In the earthly creation this division is repeated in the distinction between spirit and nature; and in man, as the microcosm, in that between spirit and body. Through sin this distinction was changed into an actual opposition between heaven and earth, flesh and spirit; but with the complete removal of sin, this opposition will cease again, though the distinction between heaven and earth, spirit and body, will remain, in such a way, however, that the earthly and corporeal will be completely pervaded by the heavenly and spiritual, the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven to earth, and the earthly body being transfigured into a spiritual body (Rev 21:1-2; 1Co 15:35.). Hence, if in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth, “there is nothing belonging to the composition of the universe, either in material or form, which had an existence out of God prior to this divine act in the beginning” (Delitzsch). This is also shown in the connection between our verse and the one which follows: “and the earth was without form and void,” not before, but when, or after God created it. From this it is evident that the void and formless state of the earth was not uncreated, or without beginning. At the same time it is obvious from the creative acts which follow (vv. 3-18), that the heaven and earth, as God created them in the beginning, were not the well-ordered universe, but the world in its elementary form; just as Euripides applies the expression οὐρανὸς καὶ γαῖα to the undivided mass (οπφὴμία), which was afterwards formed into heaven and earth.

Rare Jewel

‘In whatsoever state I am’- The word ‘estate’ is not in the original, but simply ‘in what I am’, that is, in whatever concerns or befalls me, whether I have little or nothing at all.
‘Therewith to be content’- The word rendered ‘content’ here has great elegance and fullness of meaning in the original. In the strict sense it is only attributed to God, who has styled himself ‘God all- sufficient’, in that he rests fully satisfied in and with himself alone. But he is pleased freely to communicate his fullness to the creature, so that from God in Christ the saints receive ‘grace for grace’ (John 1:16). As a result, there is in them the same grace that is in Christ, according to their measure. In this sense, Paul says, I have a self- sufficiency, which is what the word means.
But has Paul got a self- sufficiency? you will say. How are we sufficient of ourselves! Our Apostle affirms in another case, ‘That we are not sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves’ (2 Corinthians 3:5). (RareJewel)

The Lexham Bible Dictionary

“Ark of the Covenant (בְּרִית־הַאֲרוֹן, berith-ha’aron). A golden chest that contains the covenant tablets. It served both a practical and a symbolic purpose, and was instrumental in both rituals and miracles. The Israelites believed the ark of the covenant was symbolically Yahweh’s throne—representing His very presence on earth.
The Hebrew word for “ark” (ארון, ‘rwn) designates a chest or coffin. However, the Bible makes a clear designation between the ark of the covenant and a common chest. While the most common name for the ark is “ark of the covenant,” it is also referred to as “the ark of God,” “the ark of might,” “the holy ark,” and “the ark of testimony” (or simply “the testimony”).”

http://ref.ly/o/lbd/632218 via the Faithlife Study Bible Android app.

My Note from Bible Gateway

This is how it all started.

GFL Study Forum • View topic – Chuch Growth

Chuch Growth

by Theophilos on Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:56 am

How do churches grow? For many people, growth in numbers is “the” measure of success.

There are many ways churches grow and sometimes it may even be due to the working of the Holy Spirit.

A charismatic motivational leader can motivate high achievers in the congregation to be part of making a “successful” enterprise. It doesn’t matter how.

Most of the “Mega” churches in America have written books and have leadership programs for how they did it.

There is a broad spectrum of believers in a congregation, from the truly born-again and mature Christians; to those who are immature, others who havn’t really gotten it yet, and those who are just committed to religious doctrine. This spectrum is not only in the level of their understanding of scripture and life in Christ, but also in the interpretation and meanng of various passages of scripture. Where each individual is in this spectrum, largely depends on the particular “path” of discipleship, or whether there ever was any real discipleship.

So, do highly motivational evangelistic outreach programs work for church growth? Yes, they can, given the time to develop that as the leadership model for the church.

Because of the diversity in thinking, there is always conflict between the leadership and certain segments of congregants. Just like the members of a union don’t all agree with the politics of there leadership. In the Gospels this conflict is seen between the jewish followers of Jesus and the Jewish leadership who wanted to get rid of Him.

This diversity conflict will be minimized over time as a church builds a consensus on the “core-values” of the church and the people either agree with that or leave.

The “core-values” of each member will not only be different from the leadership but also from each other. Everyone will have a slightly different view on how ”it” should be done.

The goal for success is to have a congregation where the “core-members” are of “one accord” on what their “core-values” are. This takes time and consistency, discernment and fortitude. There will always be people with their own agenda who will want to change things. This can easily divert the energy away from the main thing. In some cases, it might be strong enough to cause a “fire-storm” of controversy.

Trying to move a church according to the “success” model of another church is a form of legalism. In order to develop as part of the Body of Christ, a church needs to identify spiritually gifted leaders rather than using just any one who wants to volunteer for key leadership positions. With this model, maybe the church will develop Holy Spirit inspired “core-values” rather than just charismatic motivational effort.

To have Spirit led motivation, the members come to understand that what they believe is really real for every area of their life. They are excited about what they believe, therefore it is “good news” for everyone else. This is the Gospel.

The “core-values” of a church can be Holy Spirit led or they can be motivated by the “flesh” just like an individual can walk in the Spirit or the “flesh”. The imaginations of the “flesh” for motivating are limitless.

But can’t we just get along with everyone, can’t we have something for everyone? No, we can’t. “core-values” means some are going to need to change.

The real measure is……

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Church Muddle

by Theophilos on Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:10 pm

We usually speak of the church as the building, or as a group of people in “the” building who are all “born again” and have a common understanding of their faith.

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The Church, which is the spiritual body of Christ in the New Testament, is not the same as our denominational “Christian” churches.

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I have heard of statements from prominent preachers that “ninety percent of the people in churches are not saved”. I am not sure I agree with this. I will agree that ninety percent of the people in churches don’t exhibit an understanding of what it means to be “in Christ”. I attribute much of the blame for this on what new Christians are taught. Being “in Christ” is spiritual, how do people learn to understand their spiritual relationship with God when they are taught organizational planning, and denominational doctrines and methods?There are many different types of believers in every local denominational congregation.

There are a few who are “born again” believers who understand grace and live according to the grace of God.

There are those who live according to law and works,

There are those who are “burned out” on denominational striving and manipulation and are now inactive.

There are those who are false believers and teachers, messengers of Satan.

There are those who don’t know who they are in Christ. All they do is attend a worship service.

There are a few who are still searching.

The first, second and fourth groups are the ones who are very active in the church. They may represent only ten percent of the church, while the third and fifth groups may represent as much as ninety percent of the church. The second and fourth groups will always want to be in control of everything. Another view of this model is shown in the “Three Types of Christians” study.

Most people “attend” church rather than develop personal relationships with other Christians.

They attend church for something other than spiritual reasons.

Most are attending for what they get out of it, as kind of a shallow hope that they won’t go to Hell, or as a place to be involved which is a little different from their secular life. They are there for a secular type of relationship (entertainment and activites), not for a closer spiritual walk with the Lord.

Many “churches” are like secular organizations, kind of like a community service club. They are running an organization the same way the “world” runs a business. They sell the church with programs and promotions. They become purpose driven rather than Spirit lead. Many churches are simply a group of people who like the charisma of the pastor.

Many people are attending church as a religious thing, and they control how involved they become. They want it that way. They don’t want to get too close to God. They don’t want a personal relationship with Christ which means He is with them all day, every day.

They believe that their secular life must be primary, or they won’t be able to keep up. Their church life is some relief from the stress in the world and an indication that they are searching for something and at the same time they are afraid to get too close to it.

Their spiritual life is void, because they don’t know how to experience it. They have been taught many “cliche” doctrines, which allows them to pretend to be as close to God as any one else. They have not been taught how to win the battle between the spirit and the flesh, and experience the Holy Spirit in their life.

These people have a special need. They are a mission field. Scripture

How do we know them? By what motivates them (their attitude) and their concern for others.

Do they have a desire to share the gospel.

Do they have a desire to minister to the spiritual needs of others, helping to assimilate visitors into their fellowship.

Do they seek to get involved with the hardships of others?

Do they tend to emphasize their spiritual gifts rather than spiritual maturity in love.

Do they promote physical things, such as organization, growth, buildings, motivational methods, entertainment, rather than how to understand their spiritual relationship with Christ.

Do trials cause them to fall apart emotionally or morally, to get mad at God and others, or does it draw them closer to God and others.

We need to teach scripture in terms of church problems which Paul addressed (we have all the same problems, but we don’t try to deal with them) and teach on how to have a spiritual relationship with Christ and others, not on church activity, motivation and ministry.

Our life in Christ and in the church with brothers and sisters in Christ, should be the best thing in our life.

When we preach, teach and learn the spiritual, everything else happens in the right way. Christianity is spiritual. If we don’t learn to walk in the spirit and talk in the spirit, what we do is nothing.

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